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Class Lawsuit against Daum

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Hey guys, I would like to know if there is any experienced lawyer here that can tell us if a Class Lawsuit against Daum would be possible. I know the laws regarding gaming industry are very opaque but I am willing to contribute with 3000$ to the cause.

For example, when I purchase a service like this, they should be obliged to provide a fair environment, clean of cheats and hacks. Whats the logic behind it? We purchased a good/service for enjoyment. This enjoyment comes from participating in an open world environment with a set structure and rules. Any break of those rules, or actions outside of the defined enviroment thats whas been provided to us is against our current and potential enjoyment of the service/product we have purchased.

As a result, Daum needs to really address the current issues. THE FREELANCERS THAT PROVIDE HACKS AND BOTS to BDO GAMERS ARE STILL FULLY OPERATIONAL AND LESS OF 10% OF THEIR COSTUMER BASE HAS BEEN BANNED. If this doesnt change we should start publishing publicly all the forums, discords, and places where the hacks can be obtained. Everything will full detailed guides for dummies. From my experience, this is the only way they will really address the issue.

 

Edit: I delete the reason of pvp hardcore game for being inncurate but the other one clearly remains.

 

Kind regards,

Rupsito 

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Hahaha hahaha hahaha...

Oh you're serious?

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Writing this on the game's own official forum. Smart move.

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you accepted their terms and conditions. and this variation isnt unreasonable unfair onerous etc. no case here. move on

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Haha. No.

I was never marketed a hardcore pvp game. You just saw what you wanted to see. A 7 day pass or a week playing in another region would have been enough for you to realise this wasn't the case. I am sorry you didn't do more research before your purchase. 

Bye bye!

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I dont get why ppl thing BDO was advertised as PVP game...its still a MMO that is OPEN WORLD/Sandbox....which means you can do whatever you want and how you want it. There were nothing stated like "hardcore pvp game" or something similar, so take DAUM to court because you think BDO was a pvp game and now they ruined it (they didnt btw, i see much more guildwars, fights and PKers then before ^^ ) then i only can laugh about you ^^

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BDO was advertised as a Sandbox-MMO. 'Nuff said, close the thread.

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Ok present your case to a lawyer and let us know

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For example, when I purchase a service like this, they should be obliged to provide a fair environment, clean of cheats and hacks.

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Time to file a lawsuit against any game company ever ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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I am not saying they are obliged to provide a 100% safe environment of cheats and hacks but at least they should do their very best and allocate alll the neccesary resources to combat it and set it to minimums. Obviously, when you check the discord, forums, webssite, irc, of the freelancers providing the cheats, and see that barely noneone has been banned and everyone is still cheating like hell. I have to say it is obvious they are doing shit to combat the cheats and hacks, they are just pretending.

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For example, when I purchase a service like this, they should be obliged to provide a fair environment, clean of cheats and hacks. 

They are not obliged to keep it clean at any point. If you understood anything about the nature of cheating in games you wouldn't have to make this post in the first place. Short answer, no you can't take legal actions on a publisher just because there are some cheaters in the game. They can't just ban everyone either. It is a work in progress like everything else. They are banning in waves as far as I can see and that is a good start.

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Lol this is by far the most stupid thread I have seen on this forum. 

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They are not obliged to keep it clean at any point. If you understood anything about the nature of cheating in games you wouldn't have to make this post in the first place. Short answer, no you can't take legal actions on a publisher just because there are some cheaters in the game. They can't just ban everyone either. It is a work in progress like everything else. They are banning in waves as far as I can see and that is a good start.

I do not pretend to argue with you but how you dare to say "there are some cheaters". The game is completely full of people cheating. In a game where everything requires such a high ammount of hours to get, cheating is a very serious issue. Some people already have what legit players will take months to achieve, months!!!

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I do not pretend to argue with you but how you dare to say "there are some cheaters". The game is completely full of people cheating. In a game where everything requires such a high ammount of hours to get, cheating is a very serious issue. Some people already have what legit players will take months to achieve, months!!!

It doesn't matter if you get all the best shit in the game in an hour when your account gets banned permanently.

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 Some people already have what legit players will take months to achieve, months!!!

So what?  Is really no different than if you are like me and have a very limited amount of time to play. Anybody who can play more than me will have everything months before I will.  It's not like there are cash and prizes up for grabs. Worry about yourself more and what others have less,  your life will be much fuller. 

 

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how you dare to say "there are some cheaters"

Did you seriously just say that? Compared to the amount of players the amount is not massive. Stop being a dramaqueen. Take note of the fact that people do get banned. 

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Why not man up and just do it rather than cause pointless drama (which you're trying to do) ?

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Hey guys, I would like to know if there is any experienced lawyer here that can tell us if a Class Lawsuit against Daum would be possible. I know the laws regarding gaming industry are very opaque but I am willing to contribute with 3000$ to the cause.

For example, when I purchase a service like this, they should be obliged to provide a fair environment, clean of cheats and hacks. Whats the logic behind it? We purchased a good/service for enjoyment. This enjoyment comes from participating in an open world environment with a set structure and rules. Any break of those rules, or actions outside of the defined enviroment thats whas been provided to us is against our current and potential enjoyment of the service/product we have purchased.

As a result, Daum needs to really address the current issues. THE FREELANCERS THAT PROVIDE HACKS AND BOTS to BDO GAMERS ARE STILL FULLY OPERATIONAL AND LESS OF 10% OF THEIR COSTUMER BASE HAS BEEN BANNED. If this doesnt change we should start publishing publicly all the forums, discords, and places where the hacks can be obtained. Everything will full detailed guides for dummies. From my experience, this is the only way they will really address the issue.

 

Edit: I delete the reason of pvp hardcore game for being inncurate but the other one clearly remains.

 

Kind regards,

Rupsito 

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you don't ask your state to provide a country free of crimes either. because they can't provide you that. they can only work towards that goal but they can't just make all the bad stuff go away

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Hey guys, I would like to know if there is any experienced lawyer here that can tell us if a Class Lawsuit against Daum would be possible. I know the laws regarding gaming industry are very opaque but I am willing to contribute with 3000$ to the cause.

For example, when I purchase a service like this, they should be obliged to provide a fair environment, clean of cheats and hacks. Whats the logic behind it? We purchased a good/service for enjoyment. This enjoyment comes from participating in an open world environment with a set structure and rules. Any break of those rules, or actions outside of the defined enviroment thats whas been provided to us is against our current and potential enjoyment of the service/product we have purchased.

As a result, Daum needs to really address the current issues. THE FREELANCERS THAT PROVIDE HACKS AND BOTS to BDO GAMERS ARE STILL FULLY OPERATIONAL AND LESS OF 10% OF THEIR COSTUMER BASE HAS BEEN BANNED. If this doesnt change we should start publishing publicly all the forums, discords, and places where the hacks can be obtained. Everything will full detailed guides for dummies. From my experience, this is the only way they will really address the issue.

 

Edit: I delete the reason of pvp hardcore game for being inncurate but the other one clearly remains.

 

Kind regards,

Rupsito 

Honestly its Daum/PA's fault for the game having bad protection against hackers but its also people's fault for being lame and unfair for resorting to hacking. I dont think you should sue them for hackers...

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... however, there is something else, when we bought the game and when we looked up info about it and everything there was no info whatsoevr anywhere about the game that there are hidden factors and stats SUCH AS ACCOUNT/CHARACTER LUCK. And yes that is real, there are people in game that get items regardless of what they do on every 2nd/3rd boss and in general get more loot from mobs (ogres, trees, marks ,etc) This is real and i've talked to so many people and went to a great length to get as much information as i can 

fact is that there are people who can get 3 ogre rings within 10 hours of farm and there are people that can get 0 ogre rings in 250-300 hours of farm. Now is this possible if its "JUST RNG?"  Sure its possible.. once.. in reality it happens to way too many people and the people that get ogre rings like candy are also the ones who by some "CHANCE" happen to get mad loot from world bosses as well? None of this is within mathematics, the drop rates of some items is so insanely low that it is nearly impossible for things like this to consistently happen in real life, we're talking about something like 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chances and only a fool would fall for that when its just much more likely that the system is rigged instead, just like a casino,.

If you're confused what im talking about and where these zeroes come from - there are people capable of getting multiple rare loots (that have way under 0.1% drop rate) while at the same time getting loot from field bosses all within hours/days while there are people incapable of getting any of these loots since the game was launched. Only the biggest retard or a mis-informed idiot would think thats RNG.

 

I think the fact that there are accounts that are incapable of getting rare loot in a game so heavily gear-based is a mockery towards human effort and human hours spent and if theres anything you can sue them for it should be this.. ofcourse this can't easily be proven and requires many sources and many hours spent in game - which i have - but in a court of law that won't matter  ,unless they can get the jury and the judge to play the game for many hours a day for months with enough information flow around them so they can see it themselves 

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I know.  Let's all file a lawsuit against Microsoft.  You know, because people create Malware. They should totally be able to stop them before they are even created.  

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rofl  

this made my day - the week too 

how stupid can ppl be?

 

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