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the game pvp balance became a parody with this last patch

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witch >> ranger > sorc 

 

now  

witch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ranger >> giant >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorc >>>>>> rest

 

what a joke patch , because witches and wizards werent overpowered to oblivion and beyond before the patch ? Lets give them more dmg and more hp and more tankiness while we're  at it 

 

 

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Ranger is shit are you kidding me?

Only sorc can't kill them because they hit with wet noodles.

Any equal geared class will beat more than 80% of the time with the new shotgun nerf.

Witch/wizard > Berserker > warrior > tamer > valk > blader/plum > ranger > sorc

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Rangers where a fairly bad 1v1 class before the update. Now they are complete garbage.

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Yeah thats true, has nothing to do with adaption or skills....

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Rangers where a fairly bad 1v1 class before the update. Now they are complete garbage.

Lol what?

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before 

 

witch >> ranger > sorc 

 

now  

witch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ranger >> giant >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorc >>>>>> rest

 

what a joke patch , because witches and wizards werent overpowered to oblivion and beyond before the patch ? Lets give them more dmg and more hp and more tankiness while we're  at it 

 

 

i can kill wizards when 10ppl help me focus fire.balance is dope, git gud.

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now  

witch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ranger >> giant >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorc >>>>>> rest

 

This tells me you haven't tested ----- all and are still going strong with your usual knee jerk reactions ....

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apparently its ok to kill as many people can fit in your screen with a single button and to be tankier than tanks in the game with self heals too

 

the +600 hp from infinite mastery benefits wizards by far the most, their heals are increased because of it and other classes cant even regen up as easy + Protected area 1100% cancer 

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Ye, PvP balance is a fking joke atm. It's so bad that it's actually funny. Meanwhile people are -----ing about dyes being p2w, top kek.

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The patch was to help Wizard against other classes with Awakening. Too bad we don't have awakening 🌞. Daum strikes again. 

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It's alright people, basically Rangers now have no defense except for running away (or trying to, still stupidly impossible to resist CC as a Ranger, and almost every class has more mobility).

And now Wizards delete people like everyone always whined Rangers do, along with having all the CC they always had. And heals. And teleport.

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Wait ? because the preview balance wasnt already a parody ?

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Wait ? because the preview balance wasnt already a parody ?

it wasnt quite there , now it is

 

@CM_Jouska @PM_Belsazar

 

what do you guys think about this? common sense and other users have stated

The patch was to help Wizard against other classes with Awakening. Too bad we don't have awakening 

what is PA's reasoning for this patch going live on EU?  Witches and wizards were already the best class before this patch for group and mass pvp, why the hell would anyone buff the already dominant class like seriously?
witch/wizard delete all classes and every single skill they have is a CC at the same time, half of which work through dodge,  now they also have blocks on half their skills and the overall more max hp helps them the most cus of the heals so they're tankier (even tho they were already the tankiest class with protected area). At the same time they have the most party shared/supportive skills like seriously..? 

 

 

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A slight hope we will get news about hotfixes or changes monday.

But I might just be naive

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what about waiting for +20 to show up next week and see if it's balance ?

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As long as the patches don't catch up to the KR ones yet, PvP balance will be always messed up. Just a matter of time.

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Good sorcs are still good, just not as broken as before.  Bad sorcs who spammed dark flame and nothing else are just realizing they don't know how to play their class

Valks dp buffs now stack, we have one in our guild with over 300dp buffed and is pretty much unkillable, damage is a bit lacking with a dp set but he can still put pressure on wizards

Berserkers got a pretty great damage buff at the expense of some pretty harsh gvg nerfs to shake off, super armor now has a cd so getting caught by cc is much easier and generally results in getting melted.  That being said they kinda seem like a hard counter to wizards in 1v1.  BWS slows cast speed and stomp interrupts spells, combine that with berserker mobility=rip wiz

Rangers still melt faces with red shotgun, anyone who doesn't is probably sub 120ap or lacking on acc.  WotW still hurts, big nerf was to EEA with the cool down, any melee gets within grab range of ranger things begin to look bleak for the ranger. 

Tamers are actually a in a pretty good spot, do a ton of damage if geared right and ----- that pet cc lol, probably one of the more well balanced classes

Warriors have been a bit underwhelming for awhile, really good warriors can still do work but the skill/gear req compared to other classes is significantly higher to be competitve.  That being said the nerfs to sorcs and Rangers has brought them down to a level where good warriors will stomp on them because most of them are bad at their class

 

Witch/wiz recieved buffs to make them competitive with awakened classes...we obviously don't have those so they are a bit OP right now and will probably remain on top till awakenings are released or there's a hotfix.  Had a lvl 53 wiz with <130ap do over 2500 damage to my 56 222dp berserker with one spell, is what it is I guess

 

id say ranking wise witch/wiz>ranger>tamer/zerker(tie)>sorc>valk>warrior

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Good sorcs are still good, just not as broken as before.  Bad sorcs who spammed dark flame and nothing else are just realizing they don't know how to play their class

Valks dp buffs now stack, we have one in our guild with over 300dp buffed and is pretty much unkillable, damage is a bit lacking with a dp set but he can still put pressure on wizards

Berserkers got a pretty great damage buff at the expense of some pretty harsh gvg nerfs to shake off, super armor now has a cd so getting caught by cc is much easier and generally results in getting melted.  That being said they kinda seem like a hard counter to wizards in 1v1.  BWS slows cast speed and stomp interrupts spells, combine that with berserker mobility=rip wiz

Rangers still melt faces with red shotgun, anyone who doesn't is probably sub 120ap or lacking on acc.  WotW still hurts, big nerf was to EEA with the cool down, any melee gets within grab range of ranger things begin to look bleak for the ranger. 

Tamers are actually a in a pretty good spot, do a ton of damage if geared right and ----- that pet cc lol, probably one of the more well balanced classes

Warriors have been a bit underwhelming for awhile, really good warriors can still do work but the skill/gear req compared to other classes is significantly higher to be competitve.  That being said the nerfs to sorcs and Rangers has brought them down to a level where good warriors will stomp on them because most of them are bad at their class

 

Witch/wiz recieved buffs to make them competitive with awakened classes...we obviously don't have those so they are a bit OP right now and will probably remain on top till awakenings are released or there's a hotfix.  Had a lvl 53 wiz with <130ap do over 2500 damage to my 56 222dp berserker with one spell, is what it is I guess

 

id say ranking wise witch/wiz>ranger>tamer/zerker(tie)>sorc>valk>warrior

Sorcs can still beat someone 1v1 in a 10 minute fight. Sorcs can still beat a couple classes without Pots 1v1. Sorcs are completely worthless in node wars. Taking a minute and a half of setup time to try and kill one person is not viable in group fights. Sorry, class is in a horrible place and absolutely not worth playing for anything other than 1v1s or being a wandering AP buff to your guild.

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I have to agreed.

 

Zerkers got just to much burst, its just stupid, that they deal 300 dmg to a 210 dp warrior only with their grabs... srlously this buffs where retarded as -----

 

daum shouls just del warriors and thats it.

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I have to agreed.

 

Zerkers got just to much burst, its just stupid, that they deal 300 dmg to a 210 dp warrior only with their grabs... srlously this buffs where retarded as -----

 

daum shouls just del warriors and thats it.

you know that berserker's grabs weren't buffed right?  They were also hit hardest by the grab/cc changes

 

Warriors could use some love, with awakenings they're one of the best classes but we don't have those and it's going to be months before we do 

Sorcs can still beat someone 1v1 in a 10 minute fight. Sorcs can still beat a couple classes without Pots 1v1. Sorcs are completely worthless in node wars. Taking a minute and a half of setup time to try and kill one person is not viable in group fights. Sorry, class is in a horrible place and absolutely not worth playing for anything other than 1v1s or being a wandering AP buff to your guild.

had a sorc chunk me for 2k damage, with one attack, pretty sure you're just bad

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Rangers where a fairly bad 1v1 class before the update. Now they are complete garbage.

your joking right?

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Higher end zerker weighing in here(320+gs). I have no issues taking out wizards.

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Zerkers got just to much burst

 

 

LOL

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before 

 

witch >> ranger > sorc 

 

now  

witch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ranger >> giant >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorc >>>>>> rest

 

what a joke patch , because witches and wizards werent overpowered to oblivion and beyond before the patch ? Lets give them more dmg and more hp and more tankiness while we're  at it 

 

 

I'm glad you stopped picking on warriors it was starting to get rediculous

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Zerkers got just to much burst, its just stupid, that they deal 300 dmg to a 210 dp warrior only with their grabs... srlously this buffs where retarded as -----

yeah ----- zerkers, it was better when swinging giant axes at some random guy dealt at most 100dmg

 

Zerker was already unbeatable 1v1-wise before this patch (not taking sorcs in account) , but now we got the "weaker since day one frustration buff" on some attacks, just avoid us, or the best ones at least

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