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Dark Flame number of hits fix


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@CM_Jouska or  @CM_Praballo any possible ETA on Dark Flame fix? The skill is only registaring 2/5 hits (40% of the dmg). This as completly ruined sorc gameplay, we were supose to be a assassin class, go in kill and come out, now we cant to that only plums/bladers can do it.

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Everyone in this game is supposed to be an "Assassin", didn't you know? Welcome to how the rest of the classes play int his game, brah.

Time to git gud.

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@CM_Jouska or  @CM_Praballo any possible ETA on Dark Flame fix? The skill is only registaring 2/5 hits (40% of the dmg). This as completly ruined sorc gameplay, we were supose to be a assassin class, go in kill and come out, now we cant to that only plums/bladers can do it.

they nerfed the dmg and crit rate.. they were only suppose to nerf the crit rate...  10 dmg to a 0 dp player.. lol  thats not balancing thats a bug. 

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they nerfed the dmg and crit rate.. they were only suppose to nerf the crit rate...  10 dmg to a 0 dp player.. lol  thats not balancing thats a bug. 

Its not a bug, its an unintentional "fix". Daum just copy and paste what ever the latest patch was in KR that revolved around awakening.

 

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Why dont you adapt and use crow flare instead of basing your success on a skill that gives you infinite blocks ontop of your infinite iframes. I agree that the damage is odd, but its not the only skill you have to do damage, so stop acting like it. 

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Why dont you adapt and use crow flare instead of basing your success on a skill that gives you infinite blocks ontop of your infinite iframes. I agree that the damage is odd, but its not the only skill you have to do damage, so stop acting like it. 

crow flare? u serious? yes we all have to adapt. we just want to hear from daum because this is an obvious bug. DF needed a nerf and the Crit rate on cooldown would of hurt but the skills would still be useful but only doing 10points of dmg on a 0 DP player was not there intent..

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crow flare? u serious? yes we all have to adapt. we just want to hear from daum because this is an obvious bug. DF needed a nerf and the Crit rate on cooldown would of hurt but the skills would still be useful but only doing 10points of dmg on a 0 DP player was not there intent..

Yes crow flare, it does a decent chunk of damage. Not as much as pre-nerf DF, but it can hold quite a bit of burst with the secret combo of Crow Flare > Beak Kick > Shadow eruption. Plus the damage of DF was a part of the nerf Korea received. So basing off the fact that we keep getting Korean patches way early, I doubt Daum altered the patch in anyways, just failed to mention that the damage would also be gibed. 

 

Edit: LOL bear kick...woops

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we were supose to be a assassin class, go in kill and come out, now we cant to that only plums/bladers can do it.

that's what ninja/kunoichi's are for. so wait 2 year plz. until then, enjoy the new balanced patch and git gud

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Yes crow flare, it does a decent chunk of damage. Not as much as pre-nerf DF, but it can hold quite a bit of burst with the secret combo of Crow Flare > Bear Kick > Shadow eruption. Plus the damage of DF was a part of the nerf Korea received. So basing off the fact that we keep getting Korean patches way early, I doubt Daum altered the patch in anyways, just failed to mention that the damage would also be gibed. 

You are wrong there nerf wasnt as near as much as the bug we got.. i see we have maintence tomorrow to fix the issue.. case closed.  ty though im gonna try crow flare more

 

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Yes crow flare, it does a decent chunk of damage. Not as much as pre-nerf DF, but it can hold quite a bit of burst with the secret combo of Crow Flare > Bear Kick > Shadow eruption. Plus the damage of DF was a part of the nerf Korea received. So basing off the fact that we keep getting Korean patches way early, I doubt Daum altered the patch in anyways, just failed to mention that the damage would also be gibed. 

reading that shit im sure you already had a beerkick.

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crow flare? u serious? yes we all have to adapt. we just want to hear from daum because this is an obvious bug. DF needed a nerf and the Crit rate on cooldown would of hurt but the skills would still be useful but only doing 10points of dmg on a 0 DP player was not there intent..

 crow flare wwith air attack does great damage. Look into it.

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Here ya go! 

 

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So what I gather it still does the same damage PvE?

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Here ya go! 

 

Notice that Dark flame does  about 50% of that combo damage ( so now it would be 2-5%)? How is that helpful? we get a combo that does 40-45% of the targets life and h ave no damage for 20 secs, while they heal up to full again?

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@CM_Jouska or  @CM_Praballo any possible ETA on Dark Flame fix? The skill is only registaring 2/5 hits (40% of the dmg). This as completly ruined sorc gameplay, we were supose to be a assassin class, go in kill and come out, now we cant to that only plums/bladers can do it.

So far the only word has been that they've complied feedback and are talking to the developers to find out what was and wasn't intentional.

i.e. they don't even know what is in the patches they push out.

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Notice that Dark flame does  about 50% of that combo damage ( so now it would be 2-5%)? How is that helpful? we get a combo that does 40-45% of the targets life and h ave no damage for 20 secs, while they heal up to full again?

Do you not know how to figure this out on your own? You have something called Shard Explosion that could fill in that damage gap....jesus theory craft some shiet instead of being so reliant on 1 skill....

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can we stop crying 1000 sorc threads already it's not a bug I've confirmed it

Please show us how you confirmed it not to be a bug? Its pretty obvious that the first 3 of the 5 attacks are now doing next to no damage, when the tool tips shows they should be doing a lot more.

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Here ya go! 

 

Wow

wizzard 52 lvl with 90 dp vs sorc 55 lvl with food xD

 

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Posts a video of sorc doing damage without dark flame.  Video shows all the damage coming from dark flame.  O'ReillyYouCan'tExplainThat.jpg

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Do you not know how to figure this out on your own? You have something called Shard Explosion that could fill in that damage gap....jesus theory craft some shiet instead of being so reliant on 1 skill....

Oh my bad you have to use another skill with a 30 sec cooldown to finish them off... Then if that fails you are worthless for 30 secs, I get it, Can't believe i miss that!!! man guys read what this guy has to say, sorc is perfect now.

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Oh im sorry, were you expecting to annihilate everyone with 1 skill that you could spam? Oh poor you :c having to learn about cooldown management and being a burst assassin. QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

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Oh im sorry, were you expecting to annihilate everyone with 1 skill that you could spam? Oh poor you :c having to learn about cooldown management and being a burst assassin. QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

Cooldown management and only having any significant burst roughly 30 seconds apart assuming you could actually have a chance to recharge the shards are two very very different things.

In high end gear that means you'd burst someone down to 1/2 hp and they have 30 seconds to punish you while you really can't fight back.

How about, instead, we get dark flame fixed where it does enough damage to be useful without being overpowered instead of just taking a key part of their kit and nerfing it to oblivion?

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Oh my bad you have to use another skill with a 30 sec cooldown to finish them off... Then if that fails you are worthless for 30 secs, I get it, Can't believe i miss that!!! man guys read what this guy has to say, sorc is perfect now.

So, basically like an assassin in any other game, where if your rotation gets messed up you have to escape out of the fight and retry.

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Oh im sorry, were you expecting to annihilate everyone with 1 skill that you could spam? Oh poor you :c having to learn about cooldown management and being a burst assassin. QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

You have got to be joking... we have no damage skills other than some piss poor ones that have long cool downs now, I wouldn't care if they nerfed Darkflames to no damage and just block IF they gave us some other way to do the damage... Right now if we fight a high DP target 1v1 we can hardly out damage potions and it takes forever to kill them if we can at all, How are we to fill our roll as back line assassins if we take 2 mins to kill a single target - we are worthless for that now, we are just support knockdown bots. That burst combo you posted only works on lower level undergeared people 100-0.

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Cooldown management and only having any significant burst roughly 30 seconds apart assuming you could actually have a chance to recharge the shards are two very very different things.
In high end gear that means you'd burst someone down to 1/2 hp and they have 30 seconds to punish you while you really can't fight back.

How about, instead, we get dark flame fixed where it does enough damage to be useful without being overpowered instead of just taking a key part of their kit and nerfing it to oblivion?

 

You have got to be joking... we have no damage skills other than some piss poor ones that have long cool downs now, I wouldn't care if they nerfed Darkflames to no damage and just block IF they gave us some other way to do the damage... Right now if we fight a high DP target 1v1 we can hardly out damage potions and it takes forever to kill them if we can at all, How are we to fill our roll as back line assassins if we take 2 mins to kill a single target - we are worthless for that now, we are just support knockdown bots. That burst combo you posted only works on lower level undergeared people 100-0.

 

You can still do okish damage just from stinger > crow flare. Abuse the stagger, you can hop around during that 3 second CC immunity phase and just keep harassing with your higher mobility and once they reach 60-70% hp, go in for the full burst and delete them as usual. You still play the assassin role, you can still build up 30 stacks, you can dance around in the 30 second window harassing. I dont see DF being fixed as it is the way it is in Korea...regardless if it is the awaken patch and we dont have awaken. 

 

Its much more risk/reward with sorcs now. 

 

 

Edited by aznkid2142

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